Most business owners hit a ceiling. Revenue climbs for a few years, then it flattens, and no matter how many hours you throw at the problem the number will not move. You are busy, you are probably profitable and you are completely stuck. John Warrillow calls this the owner’s trap, and in this episode he shares the exact process he uses to break out of it.
John is the creator of the Value Builder System and the author of Built to Sell. He walks through his Scalability Trifecta: a simple way to score every product and service you sell so you know which ones are worth building around and which ones are quietly holding you back. Hit play if your business has stopped growing and you can feel that it leans a little too heavily on you.
Key Takeaways
- The owner’s trap is real. Good businesses stall at a ceiling of complexity, often around $500,000, $2 million or $3 million, because they lean too heavily on the founder.
- Focus makes you referable. A generalist is almost impossible to recommend. A specialist is the first name that springs to mind.
- Score every offer on three things. How teachable it is to your team, how valuable it is to the customer and how repeatable the purchase is. Mark each out of 10.
- Value is your stand-in for margin. Where you are genuinely differentiated you hold pricing power, so raw revenue is not the number that matters here.
- Start cutting from the bottom. Drop your lowest-scoring, most owner-dependent offer first rather than betting everything on one dramatic leap.
- Revenue is vanity, value is sanity. Build a business worth buying, whether or not you ever plan to sell it.
In This Episode
- 02:15 The owner’s trap: why good businesses stop growing
- 03:30 The E-Myth technician who ends up selling too much
- 06:45 Why a generalist is unreferable
- 09:15 Step one: list every product and service you sell
- 10:15 Step two: score each on teachable, valuable and repeatable
- 15:00 Running the trifecta by customer segment
- 16:45 Step three: stack rank your offers
- 22:00 Step four: start cutting from the bottom
- 24:30 The Stelligent story: a $1 million plateau to a $20 million exit
- 29:45 Bundling commodity services into something valuable
👤 Today’s Guest, John Warrillow
John Warrillow is the founder of the Value Builder System, a methodology for strategically building the value of a company in the lead up to a sale. He is the author of Built to Sell, The Automatic Customer and Drilling for Gold. He has started and sold four businesses of his own. His work is best known for putting recurring revenue at the centre of business value, an area many owners overlook. He also hosts a podcast where he sits down with founders and unpacks how they built and sold their companies.
Website: valuebuilder.com
📋 The Value Builder System: How to Decide What to Scale
Based on the interview with John Warrillow, founder of the Value Builder System.
Every owner who feels stuck is usually stuck for the same reason. The business cannot grow past a certain point because it cannot run without them. John’s Value Builder System is a twelve step process for fixing that, and it starts with one deceptively simple question: of everything you sell, what is actually worth building around?
The owner’s trap: why good businesses stop growing
John’s starting point is the ceiling of complexity. For some businesses it arrives at $500,000 in revenue, for others at $2 or $3 million, but the symptom is always the same. Year after year the revenue looks nearly identical and you start to wonder what you are doing wrong. In most cases the answer is that the business is simply too dependent on you. Once you run out of hours in the day there is no time left to sell.
It is the same trap Michael Gerber described in The E-Myth. The technician who is brilliant at the work starts a company. Because they know so much, they get tempted to sell more and more things outside the original idea. The trouble is you cannot hire employees with twenty or thirty years of your expertise. Customers want to deal with the person who has it, so the owner can never step out.
“There is nothing that makes you less referable than being a generalist.”
John Warrillow, 06:45
John’s fix is focus. A business that does a little of everything is impossible to recommend. A business known for one thing is the first name a customer thinks of. As he puts it, narrow your focus and you broaden your appeal, because word of mouth is the one marketing channel a small business can actually win.
“Revenue is vanity, profit is sanity. In our world, we think of it as revenue is vanity, value is sanity.”
John Warrillow, 20:30
The process itself is four steps. Here is how John runs it.
1 List every product and service you sell
Grab a whiteboard and write down everything you offer today. If you sell thousands of SKUs, bucket them into ten to twenty categories. Do not rank them by revenue yet, because that number is a distraction at this stage.
2 Score each one on teachable, valuable and repeatable
Give every item a mark out of 10 on three attributes. Teachable is how easily an employee could deliver or sell it without you. Valuable is how much the customer prizes it coming from you, where the opposite of valuable is a commodity priced by the pound. Repeatable is the purchase cadence: toothpaste scores high because people rebuy it constantly, a wedding ring or a funeral casket scores low. Total the three and you have a score out of 30.
| Attribute | What it measures | Score |
|---|---|---|
| Teachable | Can an employee deliver or sell it without you | 0 to 10 |
| Valuable | How much the customer values it coming from you | 0 to 10 |
| Repeatable | How predictable the repeat purchase is | 0 to 10 |
3 Stack rank your offers
Line them up from the highest total down to the lowest. The standouts and the stragglers become obvious fast.
4 Start cutting from the bottom
Here is where most owners get it wrong. The temptation is to leap straight to the offer that scores highest, but that means walking away from most of your revenue overnight. Instead, drop the lowest-scoring item first, the one that is most dependent on you and eats most of your time. Make up the lost revenue, become a little more referable, then move to the next one up. Only the most strong-stomached founder should go all in on one thing out of the gate.
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When teachable and valuable pull apart
John makes a sharp point: the things that are easiest to teach are often the least valuable, while the things customers value most are often the hardest to teach. That is normal. The move is to bundle several teachable, commoditised services into one branded offer that becomes valuable as a package. His example is Darren Root, an accountant for medical practices, who bundled bank reconciliations, credit card processing and the rest into a single branded “Back Office Support System”. On their own those tasks were commodities. Bundled and branded, they saved doctors from hiring a full-time office manager, so the price went up accordingly.
A $1 million plateau to a $20 million exit
The story John tells to make it real is Stelligent, a DevOps firm run by Rob Daly and Paul Duvall. They did a bit of everything across the big cloud platforms and stalled at $1 million in revenue, because every new project meant recruiting a whole new team. After running the trifecta they realised their highest value score was in one platform, so they made the bold call to focus on Amazon Web Services exclusively. They became the AWS specialists and grew in lockstep as AWS took off, then about five years later sold the business.
“About five years later, they sold their business for more than $20 million.”
John Warrillow, 27:45
Fewer offers, fewer systems
This is where the Value Builder System and systemisation meet. For every product or service you offer, the number of systems you need grows exponentially rather than in a straight line, because each variation and customer segment spawns its own set of processes. Narrow what you sell and you make the whole business far easier to document and run without you. From there you systemise the handful of offers at the top of your list, which is the same 80/20 logic behind starting with your ten to fifteen most crucial systems rather than trying to map everything at once.
If your growth has flatlined, the problem is rarely effort. It is almost always that you are trying to be great at too many things at once. Pick the one offer that is teachable, valuable and repeatable, build your systems around it and let the rest go. Your business is not broken. Your focus just needs narrowing. Everything else builds from there.
Frequently Asked Questions
What is the owner’s trap?
It is the point where a business stops growing because it depends too heavily on the founder. John says it tends to hit somewhere between $500,000 and $3 million in revenue. Once the owner runs out of hours, there is no time left to sell and the business flatlines.
What is the Scalability Trifecta?
It is John’s method for scoring every product and service on three attributes: how teachable it is to employees, how valuable it is to customers and how repeatable the purchase is. Each is marked out of 10, then totalled out of 30 and stack ranked.
Why start by cutting the lowest-scoring offer rather than focusing on the best one?
Because going all in on a single offer means walking away from most of your revenue at once, which is a big risk. Dropping the lowest-scoring, most owner-dependent offer first gives you the benefits of focus without betting the whole business on one move.
How is value different from revenue?
Value is about differentiation and margin, not top line turnover. A service can bring in a lot of revenue and still be a commodity you make little on. John’s point is that revenue is vanity and value is sanity.
What if a service is teachable but not very valuable?
Bundle several teachable services together into one branded offer. As a package they become far more valuable to the customer than any single commoditised task on its own, which is exactly what the Back Office Support System example shows.
How does this connect to systemising my business?
The fewer offers you carry, the fewer systems you need, because each product and customer segment multiplies the processes required. Narrow your focus first, then document the handful of offers that remain so they can run without you.
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